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“A predator like Russia … indiscriminately attacking civilians, that creates a degree of completely justified outrage amongst Western civil societies that then is very hard to resist,” says our guest, Constanze Stelzenmüller, a foreign policy and national security expert at the Brookings Institution. “But ultimately, I think it would require a dire change of circumstances for NATO to contemplate direct war with Russia,” she went on to tell host Tim Sebastian, speaking from Washington. “The only thing that can change Putin here, and can change Putin's own cost-benefit analysis, is his inner circle. Nobody else can and will.” Stelzenmüller firmly rejected the accusation that the Western response to Russia’s invasion has been ‘appeasement,’ citing the severity of financial sanctions, and explained why she thinks Putin won’t win his war against Ukraine – though she admitted we are in uncharted waters. “But we cannot answer this by going to war with him. Not now, not at this point.” Watch and join the conversation below or on Twitter - https://twitter.com/dw_conflictzone Conflict Zone is Deutsche Welle's top political interview. Every week, our hosts Tim Sebastian and Sarah Kelly are face to face with global decision-makers, seeking straight answers to straight questions, putting the spotlight on controversial issues and calling the powerful to account. Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/user/deutschewelleenglish?sub_confirmation=1 For more news go to: http://www.dw.com/en/ Follow DW on social media: ►Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deutschewellenews/ ►Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwnews ►Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dw_stories/ #Ukraine #Russia #NATO
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